Red Rocks 2020

How much could an Umphrey’s song cost? $5,000? $10,000?

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In terms of official, primary market sales, it’s almost sold out. :man_shrugging:

It’ll be curious to see how this years prices reflect on next year passes.

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A “sold out show” that is not actually sold out is honestly best case scenario. But vibes to those with excess tickets that are making this dream a reality.

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I heard Sultan is opening the shows on his portable amp, so if anything, tickets aren’t expensive enough

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I think there are going to be a lot of extra tickets going for cheap because ‘fans’ got confused regarding capacity so maybe they didn’t hit that price point, they just gamed the system. Not UM’s fault, I know.

If openers are getting shit on around here, book better bands maybe? I’ve never talked shit on Galactic, Railroad Earth, the Wailers, JRAD, or Turkuaz.

But maybe I’m not a real ‘fan’, I’m just gaming the system as you said. I’ll get in to RR for dirt cheap, but the whole thing stinks

#BMG
#JWMG??? Nah

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Really what all of this boils down to is bad timing. I was about as optimistic as it got about covid. All my friends made fun of me for thinking shows would happen this summer, or for thinking Phish would play, etc, etc, and even with my super optimistic view, I never thought there would be full capacity Red Rocks shows in June. It is awesome that things are moving so much faster than expected, but unfortanitly that means some events that were planned a couple months ago are going to be stuck in that weird limbo phase.

Shit sucks, but things could be worse. You will be having fun with friends in a beautiful venue, drinking, drugging, and dancing your cares away. I will make fun of KB any chance I get, and I legit think he has turned one of my all time favorite bands into one of the most cringeworthy bands in the scene, but all joking aside, I don’t really see how any of this is actually the bands fault. Lottery in hindsight was a bad idea, but at the time I am sure it sounded like a good way to help fans. The whole deposit thing was a little suspect, but other than that I think the intentions were good.

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I’m pretty sure my initial reaction to the lottery was something along the lines of “why don’t they use 2 factor authentication allow lottery winners to then purchase up to x amount of tickets, and then release the rest as a general sale” not trying to go through this whole forum to find that though.

They could have kept the flexibility to adjust for capacity (and still had a deposit) without being vague and disingenuous and straight up lying (cough cummins)

Good management would have realized this was an option.

Yeah, honestly the biggest sticking point to me is that prices were set based on capacity, and the Joel said capacity would not be changed after the onsale. Then it changed.

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And if demand is so high that it’s going to totally sell out anyway(lol) why couldn’t they just redo the sale? Wouldn’t everyone who bought tickets just buy tickets again? Oh wait 3000 people ended up with double the tickets they wanted.

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Been thinking this for awhile. Had 0 complaints for tDB, it is what it is. They’re also actually a good band so it’s a little different.

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They also streamed most shows on youtube for free and functionally while UM charges $20+ for streams that don’t work the past few years

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They have way more goodwill in my book

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Did you try calling you ISP to do a connection test, then reset your router and Venmo KB a $20 VIP wifi up charge?

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Fuck I only gave him $13.48. No wonder the stream only worked 3/4 of the time

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I can’t get enough of giving Jim Erik hell for that comment on FB since he’s the one that originally made it. He doesn’t find it nearly as funny as I do. :man_shrugging:t3:

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Also the constant “not our fault” attitude that comes from the band anytime anything goes wrong. Pretty sure the only time the band tried to make up for anything since I’ve been following was a rain out make up date.

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Regarding all this ticket stuff, Joel just fucked up by saying “capacity” won’t change instead of “price.”

UM could have just said, hey the news with COVID changes every day. Maybe capacity goes up, maybe it won’t. So we’re charging $100/ticket. And that may be for a 2500 person show or a 9750 person show. We hope as many people come as possible. We know this complicates travel arrangement etc. and while we’re sorry we can’t offer more certainty, this is just the situation we’re in for this summer.

It’s disingenuous to deny UM/Joel suggested these shows would be less than full capacity. Just admit KB squeezed everything he could from this whole situation. I don’t think anyone’s asking for an apology, just acknowledgement.

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Whoa man no one here wrote those tweets