The Worst Year of Umphrey's Is

…not 2020 because it doesn’t count.

I’m going with 2009, specifically the Mantis Tour from January through the spring.

Seemed like the band was reserved, working in the new Mantis songs into their setlist construction and as a result, not delivering the jams. Besides the Aggie Kitchen, the Tulsa DBK, and that Plunger that became Remind Me, was there anything really worth revisiting from this tour?

Later in the year they got it going, and specifically, Cemetery Walk II featured it’s first outstanding version I want to say 10/25/09, it was Eureka or Eugene if my memory serves me correct but I recall listening to that show and being like, “Now that’s why you always stay until the last note.”


Either 09 or 15-17 IMO

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after nye 2008 being such a high, the vic theater show on mlk day '09 was quite pedestrian. the mlk show it had the cards stacked against me, because of how i felt from the nye run.

then, the madison run in february was rad as hell.

i saw one day of SCAMP and then their moe.down set which were both pedestrian.

then the pacnw run was special for me since i had moved to up here a few weeks before that leg of the tour. musically, i haven’t gone back and listed to madison or the pacnw run in years but those weekends were definitely special for me.

my answer may have to be 2010, solely due to having my lowest show count that year



No way, 2010 was hot.

The difference Kris made starting in '03 was night and day, but I don’t think any of the Mirro years qualify as worst ever. There are a lot of 2003 shows that have solid replay value for me even though the band was just learning how to play with Kris. I can’t think of any 2014 or 2015 UM that holds even an iota of replay value for me, so let’s say 2015 2014. There were a shit ton of forgettable shows in the 2015-18 years but I’ll go with '15 '14 as the year that started a rut.

EDIT I was thinking of 2014, not 2015. 2015 was pretty bad too, but all the shows I caught in 2014 were total snoozers.

i know :frowning: i’m still bitter that i went from fall '09 until fall '10 without seeing them at all in between

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09 or 14 would probably be my choices.

ETA: I had a great time at the '09 shows I saw, but the standard Mantis songs (particularly at the beginning of the year) really pulled down the sets as they were worked on. '14 saw the onset of the awful 4 min cock rock jams that still plague us. Think I just convinced myself '14 is worse


Would probably say '14 too. I caught 11 shows in '15 and the only ones I go back to are 1/30/15 and the June Peoria show though. 14-15 takes the cake.

  1. Though I was also just burnt out on hambands in general.


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14-16 was all pretty atrocious. 2009 seemed bad for the time, and the Mantis tour got a bit old, but the good shows and the good jams from that year are fucking fire. I could barely even listen to them from 14-16, with 14 probably being the worse.


What about the Redman shows, brah?

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All of them

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Set 1: Out Of Order > Gulf Stream[1] > Slacker > Much Obliged[2] > Slacker, Snake Juice > Dump City > Prophecy Now > Dump City, Uncle Wally > Waiting Room

Set 2: Ringo > Space Funk Booty > Ringo, Ocean Billy > The Pequod[3] -> Dr. Feelgood > Ocean Billy, Rocker Part 2[4], Spires, August

Encore: Sex Farm > Partyin’ Peeps

[1] with Slacker jam
[2] unfinished
[3] with Mood For a Day (Yes) tease by Jake
[4] with Everything In Its Right Place (Radiohead) jam

This is probably my favorite show from my least favorite year of um.

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This was a fun show but probably only my third or fourth favorite of 09, I probably prefer 2/14 and 8/27 & 8/28.

Bayliss vox were pretty awful in 09 but it’s still a better year than 2014-2016.

I’d probably agree with 09 or 14. Y’all 2015 haters need to get on some 9/26/15 and report back.

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14 or 15. I didn’t see too many 2009 shows but the ones I did were flame. 10.3.09 is such a banger

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The Peoria Front Porch set from 15’ was a lot of fun.

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Like I said, the top shows and jams from 2009 are miles and miles ahead of anything from 14-16.

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