I try to be more positive in 2021, UM included. Having said that, holy hell this looks terrible. I know who likes what songs is totally subjective, and there’s more than a few of those songs I love here, but I dunno how you can look at that whole setlist on paper and not think “ewww.”
Listening Guide:
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Is Educated Guess tracked right? Is it unfinished or is the jam out of the end of the song?
End of the song, pretty good jam too imo
This is the first educated guess I’ve tracked with improv, or anything for that matter…until today I considered this one of the most absolutely standard songs they play with any consistency…no extended solos, no instrumental breakdowns for someone to riff on, just basically 1:1 every time
Its unusual bc usually when that song gets a jam its before “I’ll concede to” part of the song… so its usually split. This is the 1st one I’m aware of with a jam tacked onto the end
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Where were you in 2015?
Very rarely listening to live UM and basically just enjoying the studio cuts that would occasionally come up in my playlists. I’m a total noob to UM by this board’s standards. I was pretty forward about it in the topic where I initiated the Listening Guide idea, so please give me any feedback if you think I’m tracking something wrong.
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I remember they started taking that song for a ride end of summer 2015. The Charleston run had a jammed out version, and the best version of the song that I can think of is 10/30/15.
That’s one of my least favorite UM songs of all time, so I feel your pain on that song being a pain in the neck to the shows it lands in.
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This feels like a personal attack, I’m always down for a standard Educated Guess
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Okay yeah yeah I get it. They aborted themes and jams all night. Weird set list construction. I know it’s weak ass shit but I have been wanting a fucking Type I jammed Boys of Summer from them for a long time. Pissed I missed this one…
That makes one of us. Song fuckin blows. So whiny and annoying
After listening to them, I didn’t think the Beech Mtn shows were too bad. I was expecting worse based on the reviews here.
Really? What were the highlights? I mean the Draco wasn’t too bad. And I really liked the Kitchen jam. But everything being aborted and the massive amount of slop (especially in N2F), made for a very underwhelming experience.
I enjoyed the EG, N2F, Higgins (didn’t recognize it was apparently a cover jam), Remind Me, and Domino Theory as well.
I get people want to see longer jams, but I feel like lately around here everything just gets dismissed out of hand if it’s not “long enough”. When I see reviews that portray a show as awful, I expect like barely any jams, a bad collection of songs, etc. But a show like this would fit in with dozens of other “standard” UM shows I’ve seen.
It’s pretty disappointing in the moment when every jam of the show is ripped. I thought the show was well below average for UM. They’re better than this.
In fact at some point during the second set, I think after Crucial Taunt, Bayliss asks the crowd to boo them…then when we do he says “oh come on, you can do better than that”. I yelled “So Can You!!!” pretty loudly. Hopefully that made it to the tape.
IMO IDM, Crooked, and Phil’s from 8/6 are actually quite good. Horrible ending to that show but those jams are worth hearing.
Really liking this Educated Guess outro jam so far. Jake’s tone sounds great here.